Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
Getting Started at MSU NACOE
Students in the Norm Asbjornson College of Engineering are encouraged to pursue their specific interests by immersing themselves in creative and/or research experiences. In comparison to other universities, Engineering and Computer Science curriculums have been strategically designed to provide:
Exceptional opportunities for hands-on learning
Our programs emphasize hands-on laboratory work from Freshman introductory courses through graduate school. Our students have access to state-of-the-art equipment, software, and laboratories which provide opportunities to develop confidence and effectiveness in engineering and computer science design, analysis, and troubleshooting. Many of our students gain cutting-edge research experience as undergraduates working in faculty research laboratories, adding to their growth and development as future engineers or computer scientists.
Learn from outstanding faculty
Engineering and Computer Science courses are taught by experienced professors, not by teaching assistants. Our award-winning faculty are recognized leaders in their areas of expertise, with graduate degrees earned from the best engineering programs in the world. Most instructors also have years of prior industrial experience ready to share with you in our classrooms and laboratories.
Accredited by ABET
Our Engineering departments and School of Computing have majors that are accredited by ABET. You may find more information on ABET accreditation on their website.
Chemical & Biological Engineering |
Chemical Engineering Biological Engineering (New Program, In Process) |
Civil Engineering |
Civil Engineering Construction Engineering Technology |
Electrical & Computer Engineering |
Electrical Engineering Computer Engineering |
Mechanical & Industrial Engineering |
Mechanical Engineering Mechanical Engineering Technology Industrial & Management Systems Engineering |
School of Computing |
Computer Science |
Yes! Designed to give residents structure and motivation across the challenging curricula housed in the Norm Asbjornson College of Engineering. Attend programs and workshops to connect you with NACOE faculty and alumni and find opportunities to further your in-class experiences through group study sessions, concierge tutoring, and social events.
You can learn more about living learning communitys on the Residence Life website.
The MSU guideline is to multiply the number of academic credits by 3 to get a rough estimate of the number of hours students can expect to spend per week on a course. Of course, this can vary depending on the student and the course, but this estimate is a good place to start.
For example, a 3-credit course will meet for about three hours per week. Students should expect to spend an additional 6 hours per week outside of class studying and completing homework. Therefore, if students are registered for 15 credits, they should expect to devote around 45 hours per week to attending classes and completing schoolwork.
The Allen Yarnell Center for Student Success offers success advising to help with time management and organization.
The MSU NACOE does not require students to have their own computer or recommend specific computers. Students use a range of devices including both PCs and Macs. Here’s some general information:
Campus computer labs, including engineering labs, are open to all students. Some advanced engineering design software is too large and costly to run on personal devices, making it necessary to use the campus labs. More info on student labs can be found at studentlabs.montana.edu.
Having your own computer is convenient for working in your room or around campus. A device with Ethernet/Wi-Fi, word processing, and spreadsheet software is sufficient for most tasks. In addition, MSU offers a variety of free software downloads. A gaming-level video graphics card helps with CAD software if you choose to download student versions.
We don't have any exclusive requirements regarding calculators, but aiming for something with good scientific support (sin, cos, tan, exp, etc.) and basic graphing should be sufficient. Models like the TI-83, TI-84, and similar calculators from HP and Casio fit this category.
At the upper level it is common to do more computation using PC-based software packages rather than a hand calculator.
Senior students who are taking the Fundamentals of Engineering Exam must abide by the exam's published calculator requirements.
Norm Asbjornson College of Engineering ePALs are engineering or computer science students just like you, but with recent experience taking the classes you are currently navigating. As Juniors or Seniors in their majors, their experience, combined with training and preparation as mentors, have prepared them to be valuable resources in helping you locate the appropriate resources to help you succeed in your classes and become the Engineering or Computer Science student you came to MSU to be.
As you move through your Freshman and Sophomore year, contact your ePALs for support in:
- finding academic support;
- learning what time management in college means;
- connecting with faculty in your department;
- writing a great scholarship essay;
- exploring the career field ahead for your major;
- attending Norm Asbjornson College of Engineering events, such as the Career Fair, the Senior Design Fair or Women in Engineering events;
- structuring group projects that work;
- persisting after a challenging exam;
- figuring out study groups; and
- so much more!
Put your ePAL to work for you! Watch for their emails and then meet them for coffee/tea or at their Pop-up Stations around campus.
Look for their "Pop-up" stations across campus and in the NACOE Complex and put them to work for you. You can reach out for more information about your ePAL.
Majors, Classes, Credits, and Requirements
For AP math courses, faculty often recommend retaking M 171Q if the student earned below a 4 on the AP exam. This should be discussed with an academic advisor.
Writing placement is determined by the English Department. Placement guidelines can be found on their website.
Some engineering majors require a credit-bearing writing course, even is a student is writing exempt.
YES! Students at all math levels can be Engineering and Computer Science majors. You will be assigned an academic advisor who can discuss your math placement and graduation timeline with you.
Internships are not required, but we highly recommend that you plan to seek meaningful engineering employment during the summer, part time during the school year, or perhaps by spending an academic term away from school. Employers who visit our campus increasingly emphasize the importance of work experience to complement your academic studies in engineering. Having some real-world experience on your résumé—and a letter of recommendation from an engineering supervisor—can be a great step on the way to landing an ideal post-baccalaureate position. It is also possible arrange to enroll in an internship for academic credit. Additional information may be found on a students’ home department website.
Most Departments/Schools and MSU Career Services post information about internships that have been announced by a sponsor, or a student may identify a sponsoring company individually through on-line research, personal contacts, or referrals.
Here are a few notes regarding course credit transfers:
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An UNOFFICIAL self-evaluation of course work can be accessed through the Transfer Course Equivalency Guide (available online). The equivalencies listed are updated from time to time, but nevertheless it is a good place to start. If you find that your transfer institution or a particular course is not listed in the Equivalency Guide, it does not necessarily mean that the course will not transfer, just that the information is not yet in the system.
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OFFICIAL evaluations of transfer credits will be processed by the Admissions Evaluator in the Office of Admissions only after ALL FINAL and OFFICIAL transcripts have been received. A final transcript is one that posts ALL graded coursework through your final term of attendance at each institution. Your Admissions Evaluator will determine the equivalency of the transfer course work to MSU in Bozeman. The Office of Admissions also determines which courses fulfill University Core requirements. Courses generally matching in credit amount, level, and content are considered equivalent. Courses not matching are granted elective credit or elective credit with core, and appear on the transfer evaluation with the designation "ELEC."
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Equivalencies for transferring engineering/computer science classes are generally determined by the Norm AsbjornsonCollege of Engineering. Once the Office of Admissions has prepared the official transfer credit evaluation, you should make a transfer advising appointment with the Department and bring a detailed syllabus for each engineering course, listing the course topics, textbook used, prerequisites, and any other information that will allow the Department to assess the equivalence.
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The most common transfer equivalency problem for engineering classes lies in the mathematics prerequisites. Students who have taken a college physics or general science class that did not have a calculus prerequisite will not be able to transfer those credits toward an engineering degree at MSU. Similarly, students who have studied electronics at a technical college, an electrical engineering technology program, or in the military typically have not learned calculus-based circuit analysis, and therefore MSU will not be able to accept those non-calculus circuits and electronics course credits toward the degree.
Scholarship and Tuition
If you are not a Montana resident, state government rules require the University to charge you the non-resident tuition and fees rate--unless you are enrolled in the Western Undergraduate Exchange (WUE) Scholarship program.
If you are a domestic (U.S.) student you can apply to become a Montana legal resident if you follow the mandatory residency guidelines. Note that the residency qualification process takes twelve months and you cannot enroll for more than 6 credits in any term during the twelve month period. You also cannot leave the state for more than a total of 30 days during the qualification year.
International students are always considered non-residents: there is no process to obtain Montana residency without being a U.S. citizen or permanent resident.
After Graduation/Graduate School
Career placement is virtually 100%. Norm Asbjornson College of Engineering, Bachelor's degree graduates from MSU find numerous professional employment opportunities, including careers with large, multi-national corporations, local and regional companies, entrepreneurial start-ups, government agencies, or continuing their formal education trajectory in graduate school.
The list of recent employers of NACOE graduates includes:
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Micron Technology
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Boeing
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IM Flash Technologies
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HDR
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Astronics
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Advanced Electronic Designs
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Newport/ILX Lightwave
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Navy Undersea Warfare Center - Keyport
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Dynojet
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Northrup Grumman
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Intel
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NASA
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University of Washington
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Cornell University
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University of Wisconsin
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University of Arizona
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Air Force Institute of Technology – Dayton
… and many, many more.
There are also opportunities to expand your career in related areas, including fields like Project Management. Information about job opportunities for individuals with Project Management certification (PMP) is available here: http://www.pmpro.org/jobs/
If you already have a two-year Associate of Arts (A.A.) or Associate of Science (A.S.) degree that included a complete General Education Core requirement (~30 semester credits), you do not need to take any additional lower-division Core classes as part of your MSU degree program. The COE program requirements of basic math and science courses still must be fulfilled, but the Core category A, H, S, D, US, and W are considered covered by the prior General Education Core taken as part of the A.S. or A.A. degree.
If you have an Associate of Applied Science (A.A.S.) degree, General Education Core classes were likely not included in your degree requirements, so you will need to earn the MSU Core 2.0 credit requirements.
Please refer to the complete Montana University System general education transfer policy for more information.
If you already have a prior bacalaureate (BS/BA) degree from an accredited institution, you do not need to take any additional lower-division Core classes as part of your MSU degree program. The EE and CpE program requirements of basic math and science courses still must be fulfilled, but the Core category A, H, S, D, US, and W are considered covered by the prior General Education Core taken as part of the prior degree.
Please refer to the complete Montana University System general education transfer policy for more information.
Transfer/International Students
First, make sure the Office of Admissions has completed your application process and performed the official Transfer Equivalency review.
Next, spend some time reviewing the MSU policies, degree requirements, and procedures applicable to your particular transfer situation. Then attend the regularly scheduled formal group orientation offered before each term, or make an appointment with the Department housing your major for an individual advising appointment.
To make the advising process quick and efficient, please be sure to bring a copy of your grade transcript, ACT/SAT scores (for math placement, if necessary), and complete course syllabi and content details from previous schools to show your previous engineering/math/science course experience.
Once your advising/orientation session is complete, you will be given the online personal identification number (PIN) needed to register for your classes.
Incoming and transfer students should aim for ACT/SAT scores that place them in the math level 5 (ACT 27/SAT 620). Calculus I (M 171Q) or Calculus for Technology I (M 165Q) and higher are required for engineering and computer science.
If your math scores place you in College Algebra (M-121Q) or Precalculus (M-151Q), you will need to pass the sequence of math courses necessary to reach Calculus I (M-171Q) as soon as you can.
The math classes you take prior to M-171Q will appear on your official transcript, but cannot be counted toward your NACOE degree requirements. Many students will use MSU's EdReady Montana program to learn the math skill/knowledge necessary for engineering and computer science majors. This program is free to MSU students.
If you cannot take M-171Q the first semester, you should select courses that will fulfill the university "Core 2.0" requirements, or choose classes and electives that do not have a calculus prerequisite. Students who place below M-151Q (Pre-Calculus) are identified as COEX students and supported with an advisor who can help them map their degree program. More information can be found on the COEX website.
The COEX designation is simply a sub-category of any of the engineering majors for students working on getting to the M-151Q (pre-calculus) level of mathematics. COEX students meet with Karen Steele, an advisor who is experienced in assisting students align their math courses with Core requirements with Engineering majors. Once students reach M-151Q, they are reassigned a faculty advisor in their home department.
- Before requesting the International Sponsor Letter verify with International Programs that your previous institution's transcript(s) have been received and evaluated. This must be done before departments can prepare a transfer evaluation letter.
- Contact your department advisor through email to request an International Sponsor Letter which includes a transfer evaluation.
- List all requirements the International Sponsor Letter must include. Only one (1) letter will be written.
- If the International Sponsor Letter requires a list of proposed classes for the semester you will be starting at MSU, and you do not have a math placement level, your letter will only list general education classes and a Math Level 1 class, which may not count towards credits in your declared major. Please review the FAQ on math classes for further information about math preparation.
- Please allow two (2) weeks for an International Sponsor Letter.
Academic Probation and Suspension
University academic performance standards are located on the Web, catalog.montana.edu/curriculum-enrollment-graduation/#Scholastic_Probation_and_Suspension.
More information about suspension and returning from suspension is available on the Navigating Suspension in the Norm Asbjornson College of Engineering website.
What does suspension mean?
When a student does not meet the academic performance standards set by the faculty at MSU, he or she may be suspended from the University. Students who are suspended for the first time may not enroll at MSU for one academic term (fall/spring). Students suspended for the second time may not enroll at MSU for one academic year. Students suspended more than twice may only re-enroll at MSU if they submit a written appeal to the University Scholastic Appeals Board and it is approved.
When and how was I notified?
It is your responsibility to review your online transcript at the end of each term to determine your academic standing. Students will not receive written notification of probation or suspend warning. You will receive written notification of suspension; the letter is sent to the permanent address you have provided in MyInfo. It is your responsibility to keep your address and contact information updated in MyInfo.
Can I appeal the suspension decision?
You may appeal the suspension decision if you believe there were extraordinary circumstances beyond your control of which the University Scholastic Appeals Board (USAB) was unaware. You must complete the Scholastic Appeal Form and submit all the required documentation listed on the back of the appeal form. The written appeal is reviewed by the USAB. Once the Board has made a decision, the finding will be sent to you and a copy will be put in your academic file. The decision of the USAB is final. If you have questions, contact the Office of Student Services in Jabs Hall Room 124.
When do I get reinstated?
Students suspended for the first time are automatically reinstated after one semester (excluding summer term) has elapsed. After a second suspension, one academic year must elapse before the student will be reinstated. Students returning to school after one or more semesters must submit an "Intent to Register" form to the Registrar's Office and meet with either the Director or Assistant Director of the Office of Student Services if a "Must See" form is issued by the Registrar's Office.